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« on: February 23, 2008, 09:47:57 AM »

Folks

I am working on Version 2.2 of the IM Index Mind Map.

I've some really interesting things in the pipeline. If you supply IM-related content, you'll have a VERY cool way of making your content available: we're going to try and start a minor revolution on how content is made available to  make life easier for everyone (whilst inceasing our affiliate commissions!)

I'll talk about that in a later post. For now, I want to cover a basic enhancement to the Map itself.

I have a confession to make. The organization of the topics in the Map breaks one of the rules of taxonomic structuring! It's true, and I blush to think of it!

Well - actually, I did it on purpose as a pragmatic compromise, but I think the time has now come to fix it.

What on earth am I talking about?  Huh

The A-Z topics mix up two things: Subjects and Types

Ad Tracking, Article Marketing, ClickBank, Keyword Research .... they all describe the SUBJECT MATTER of the content.

Graphics, Website Templates, Scripts, Tools .... they all describe the TYPE of the content.

Actually, it's ambiguous. "Graphics" could be a Subject or a Type. As a Subject it would be about how to create graphics, information about graphics designers, graphics tools etc. As a Type it would be a repository of graphics.

Same with Website Templates, Scripts, Tools etc.

So, it's time to introduce some more rigour into how we organize things. So I shall be introducing a REPOSITORIES heading in the Map where you can store things of the same "type".

Finally - this is the feedback I'm asking for: What repositories should I include?

The one's I've identified so far are:

Article & AR Sequence Repository
Template Repository
Adsense Template Repository
Keywords Repository
Graphics & Images Repository
Scripts Repository
Tools Repository
Ebook Repository
Video Repository
Audio Repository

Have I missed anything?

And for those structuring experts amongst you - can you spot the ambiguity this will create in how some stuff is organized? (I'll cover that in a later post, and explain why it's a "good thing"!)

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Alex
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2008, 11:14:03 AM »

Wordpress Plug-ins, Wordpress themes, and other CMS modules and packages. Where might these go?

Say you're browsing online and you've convinced yourself you'll want to use a particular plug-in someday but you're not quite ready to; but you definitely want to remind yourself about it at a later date. Would a scripts repository be the logical place you would look?

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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2008, 12:06:27 PM »

Excellent suggestion, Mitch.  Thanks.

How about

Themes & Plugins Repository

They are sort of covered by Templates and Scripts, but worth calling out separately, I think.

People can add sub-folders to cover specific CMSs (Wordpress etc.)

I currently put my WP Themes under Blogs & Blogging, but a separate folder within Repositories would be better, I believe. The Map can show the cross-connections via "Related" links.

Any other views on this?

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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2008, 12:22:08 PM »

Um, where's the swipe file repository? 

 - email swipe file repository
 - webpage salesletter swipe file repository
 - OTO salesletter swipe file repository

...what about a process map repository for quick reference,
and one that's close to my heart - a spreadsheet 'dashboard' repository, although that could be a subcategory of tools, I admit.

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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2008, 12:39:30 PM »

Hi Alex,

What about an "Applications" repository for those bits of software that defy easy classification?   For instance, where would you put Dr. Andy Williams' "Creating Fat Content"?   I use it every day - but should I file it under "Traffic Generation" or "Affiliate Marketing" - as I use it for both?

I love your software, but my biggest problem is what one might call its degree of "graininess" (i.e. as in fine-grained).

For instance, I recently bought Long Tail Cash - a great product.   I filed it under Affiliate Marketing, but I could just as easily have put it under "Traffic" in the "Marketing Disciplines", or under SEO, or under WP sites.

Thank goodness for your recent tip on Copernic Desktop Search - I now have 10 GB of info filed - only 40 more to go!

So - do you think your new arrangement will help information junkies like myself?

Best wishes,

Darrell
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2008, 02:08:37 PM »

This is good stuff! Keep it coming folks.

I'll give a consolidated response later.

Thanks.

Alex
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2008, 04:28:13 PM »


And for those structuring experts amongst you - can you spot the ambiguity this will create in how some stuff is organized? (I'll cover that in a later post, and explain why it's a "good thing"!)


GREAT discussion you've started, Alex. Here's one of the ambiguities I see:

Tools - I tend to break tools (I use "utils" but same thing) into 2 classes:

desktop apps
web server-based

If you think of them that way, then you have an ambiguity with "scripts" and perhaps even "templates" (which are for servers, right?)

A possible solution:  If you are going to nest major categories (see below), make a top level of simply "software", nest 2 main cats underneath, desktop and server, and then here's what you might have in server, for eg.:

CMS Stuff
Themes and Templates
Security
Backoffice Tools (eg. Fantasos)
Email Tools (server spam fighters, proxies, etc)
Server-based GODsends (autoposters, proxy hunters, link spammers)



Another thought - what about nesting of categories?

Eg. if you made a VERY BROAD top-level cat such as Publishing

you then would have, underneath it:

Articles
AR Series
Special Reports
Ebooks
(and arguably audio and video?)


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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2008, 04:33:46 PM »

Another comment about changing classification structures:

This has the potential to "drive the ship" as it were, when it comes to how admins are deploying tools like the TDM (turbo download manager) and the Memberspeed Product Manager plugin.

If the development crews of these great products can come on board and embrace the IMIC technology, there will not only be a standard at the customer's desktop directory structure level but ON THE FILE REPO'S THEMSELVES! And boy, do they need some sort of guiding hand!  Any old admin/owner of these, left to their own devices will BUTCHER the creation of the repo folder structures. No reason for it either.
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2008, 05:43:39 PM »

Hi Alex,
Being a Newbie (although I have the IM Mind Map) With the E-books are there areas for Personally developed, Affiliate, Resell rights, Master Rights, Minimum Price, Can Give Away, ETC.  so it is know how each one can be marketed.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2008, 07:01:06 PM »

What a small world!

Since I started my project to build a real Internet Marketing Public Library, I was asking to myself the very same questions as I have to create sections in the library. I was puzzled (and I still am)as which labels should better to reflect the sections!

Better now! I liked this: subject or type!

The good thing is that I was on the same level of thought ...as a repository. You can see the sections of the Internet Marketing Public Library I had created so far (signature).

Some sections below:

DOCUMENTS:
Text documents: PDF, DOC, TXT and so on (not only PDF)
Audio Documents
Video Documents
Graphics

TOOLS:
Software (your computer)
Script (your server)
Services (from the web)

So far that's about it! I will keep an eye on this thread!

Thanks

Roger Pilon, Librarian
http://www.Internet-Marketing-Public-Library.org





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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2008, 07:38:44 PM »

Thanks all.

First - let me try and be clearer about what I mean by "Repositories" and how they fit in to the philosophy behind the "Reference" section of the IM Index Mind Map.

In any organizational system, you have to pick a primary dimension for organizing things. I chose "Subject". This means that, in theory at least, everything should be organized by Subject first (the A-Z and the Niches) - and then by whatever dimension comes next. The main choices here are "Rights" and "Type". I chose "Rights" as the next dimension by including a ~Resell Products folder under each Subject folder.

As I said above, the "type" dimension got rather muddled in amongst the "Subject" - on purpose.

Now, in thinking more about people downloading content - e.g. from sites that provide monthly packages of content - people get files that relate to multiple subjects. They probably don't want to split it up - or it's just not worth them splitting it up - into different subjects. Example are collections of articles or keywords or templates etc.

So what do they do with it?

The answer now will be - put them into the Repositories!

So - my conception of the Repositories would be for files that contain content that cover multiple Subjects (or no specific Subject, such as Graphics, on the whole).

But what do YOU think? Here is a very specific question about Scripts

Would you store ALL your scripts in a Scripts repository, or would you have them placed under the relevant Subject (if there is one). For exampe, I have:

GotTryThis under Ad Tracking
JVManager 1 under Administration & Organization
TurboRSS under RSS
etc.

Would you do the same? Or would you put ALL scripts together under Scripts?

Thanks.

I'll respond to individual posts in a seperate post.

Alex
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2008, 09:08:05 PM »

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- email swipe file repository
 - webpage salesletter swipe file repository
 - OTO salesletter swipe file repository

I don't think they quite fit into the model of Repositories, but the "Swipefile" idea is good. I'll add a "Copywriting Swipe File" subject underneath "Copywriting".


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...what about a process map repository for quick reference,

Where would people find process maps? They are a good idea, but I don't think they are commonly used. If you are creating your own for specific project, then there is already a Process topic for specific projects on the right-hand side of the map under the Project Information heading.

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and one that's close to my heart - a spreadsheet 'dashboard' repository, although that could be a subcategory of tools, I admit.

Yes - I think it's too specialised to warrant its own topic.


Darrell

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What about an "Applications" repository for those bits of software that defy easy classification?   For instance, where would you put Dr. Andy Williams' "Creating Fat Content"?   I use it every day - but should I file it under "Traffic Generation" or "Affiliate Marketing" - as I use it for both?

I checked out "Creating fat Content". It's a course plus tool. It's about ... creating content, right? So the topic to file it under is... Content-Creating & Finding !

This is an interesting case that relates to the question I just asked above. If you put all your scripts (or tools) in one place, then in the case of Creating Fat Content, you'd be splitting off the tool from the course.

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I love your software, but my biggest problem is what one might call its degree of "graininess" (i.e. as in fine-grained).

For instance, I recently bought Long Tail Cash - a great product.   I filed it under Affiliate Marketing, but I could just as easily have put it under "Traffic" in the "Marketing Disciplines", or under SEO, or under WP sites.

Darrell

You need to think about what a product DOES, not what you use it for. You can use something for very many reasons, and so you'd find it hard to know where to file it. But if you think about what it DOES, very often there is much less ambiguity.

Long Tail Cash, for example is a strategy about keyword research - so file it under Keyword Research.


Steve

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Tools - I tend to break tools (I use "utils" but same thing) into 2 classes:

desktop apps
web server-based

If you think of them that way, then you have an ambiguity with "scripts" and perhaps even "templates" (which are for servers, right?)

I've been equating "Tools" with your "desktop apps" and "scripts" with "web server-based".

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A possible solution:  If you are going to nest major categories (see below), make a top level of simply "software", nest 2 main cats underneath, desktop and server, and then here's what you might have in server, for eg.:

CMS Stuff
Themes and Templates
Security
Backoffice Tools (eg. Fantasos)
Email Tools (server spam fighters, proxies, etc)
Server-based GODsends (autoposters, proxy hunters, link spammers)

This would start to cross over with the current Subject categories:

CMS Stuff: (I should add a "Content Management Systems" subject!)
Security: this is already a subject
Backoffice Tools: covered by Administration & Organization
Email Tools: there is already a Spam subject, and I should add an "Email Management" subject
Server-based GODsends: yeeeees. Not sure how to handle that


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Another thought - what about nesting of categories?

Eg. if you made a VERY BROAD top-level cat such as Publishing

you then would have, underneath it:

Articles
AR Series
Special Reports
Ebooks
(and arguably audio and video?)

That's moving too far from the current structure.

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This has the potential to "drive the ship" as it were, when it comes to how admins are deploying tools like the TDM (turbo download manager) and the Memberspeed Product Manager plugin.

I understand what you're saying, Steve. I need to think more about the perspective of the online content repositories. I think your earlier suggestions come from that view.

Thanks.

Roger

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Since I started my project to build a real Internet Marketing Public Library, I was asking to myself the very same questions as I have to create sections in the library. I was puzzled (and I still am)as which labels should better to reflect the sections!

Better now! I liked this: subject or type!

I wrote this recently to a very well known content supplier about the way he was suggesting people organize his monthly download information...

The most useful way for people to access content is by Subject. You don't go looking for "A video", you go looking for information ABOUT something (the Subject), and you probably don't care that much what form it takes (the Type).

The trouble is, just about everyone organizes their content by Type - because it's MUCH easier to do that. Creating a comprehensive organizational system based on Subject is VERY hard. To my knowledge, no-one else has done that. But that is what is in the IM Index Mind Map. I don't know if you've bought that tool, Roger, but I think you should!

BTW - your site looks good. What CMS have you used to build it (assuming there is a CMS behind it)?

Thanks all for you input.

Keep it coming!

Regards

Alex
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2008, 06:09:47 PM »

Please move this post if it belongs elsewhere.

I am working on a "upsell" for my membership where I include a shippable CD/DVD that includes my ENTIRE resource collection.

I'd like to bundle IM-Index with it, along with whatever is required for the end user to "press a button" and voila! Their IM-Index install is magically populated with HUNDREDS of resources from the CD/DVD they have received in the mail.  I will be including a large body of audio and video resources...still not sure the best way to PRODUCE the video for this collection, but it's more than likely to be .FLV format.  All audio will be MP3.  Easy to move off to Ipod or car player for quick learning on the run. 

Many of these customers are going to want to deploy some of this material on their own sites (including Turbo Download Manager, the Memberspeed Product Manager Plugin, the Joomla docman component), so I've purposely built the resources to include:

a. the zip archive of the product
b. the zip archive of the reseller kit (if any)
c. the text file of the description
d. the thumbnail image of the ecover

I'm wondering if a 5th component is indicated here...a sort of IMIC "fileid.diz"  -  Remember those from the public domain download days?  that carried all the "good stuff" about the archive?  It seems if you could arrive at a standard for a "imicid.diz" type file, the leverage IM-Index would command with file repositories across the world would be phenomenal... repo admins would be RUNNING for the "IMIC button" as it were! hehe

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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2008, 07:16:03 PM »

Steve

When I announce the IMIC Installer concept in a new thread, I'll move your post and answer it then.


Thanks

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